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Sumpf and Schreckensee starting at Cham

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Recorded distance
332 km
Riding-time estimate
6 h 15
Journey
Recorded itinerary
Distance and timing basis

Ordered leg totals agree within rounding. Stop distances are approximate sums of rounded legs. Stops, delays, approach and any separate return travel add time. Basis: producer-declared routed record.

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Why this ride

From Cham it runs 332 km to Cham; allow about 6 h 15 of riding. It goes by way of Egelsee, Schreckensee and back through Egelsee. It crosses from Switzerland into Germany - carry ID and check vignette or toll rules. It was put together for the scenery rather than the shortest line.

Scenic road chapters

Grand Tour of Switzerland

72 km on Grand Tour of Switzerland.

Chapter facts
Length
72 km
Named road
Grand Tour of Switzerland

Waypoint introductions and full write-ups

  1. 1. Sumpf

    Zug-Sumpf was a Bronze Age village on the northern shore of Lake Zug, near the mouth of the river Lorze between Cham and Steinhausen, and the waterlogged ground preserved wooden floors, posts and objects for over three thousand years. Excavations in the twentieth century recovered pottery, bronze tools and even remains of food, and the site sits on the World Heritage list as part of the prehistoric pile dwellings around the Alps. Some of the finds are displayed in the museum of prehistory in Zug. Today the site lies under modern buildings and meadows, and only the name, which means swamp, recalls its watery origin.

    Read the complete Sumpf write-up.

    Recorded stop-planning note

    May refer to an earlier itinerary; verify against your selected route before riding.

    Planning note

    Sumpf is where the day begins. Next is Egelsee.

  2. 2. Egelsee

    There is almost nothing to see at the Egelsee, and that is part of its charm. It is a small, reed-fringed bog lake in the rolling Thurgau countryside between Gachnang and Frauenfeld, and under its peat and mud lie the remains of a Neolithic lakeside settlement, timber piles and floor layers preserved for thousands of years because air never reached them. It is one of the many sites that make up the Prehistoric Pile Dwellings around the Alps on the UNESCO list, and unlike the reconstructed villages you find elsewhere, this one has been left in the ground on purpose. Archaeologists consider the soggy earth the best museum there is.

    Read the complete Egelsee write-up.

    Recorded stop-planning note

    May refer to an earlier itinerary; verify against your selected route before riding.

    Planning note

    Egelsee comes up about 72 km into the recorded legs. Next is Schreckensee.

  3. 3. Schreckensee

    The Schreckensee, the lake of terror, is a disappointingly peaceful place for such a dramatic name. It is a small kettle lake in the moraine country of Upper Swabia, between Ravensburg and Aulendorf, left behind when a block of glacial ice melted at the end of the last Ice Age. Its shores, now partly bog and reed bed, hide the remains of prehistoric settlements, and it is one of the German sites in the UNESCO listing of Prehistoric Pile Dwellings around the Alps. As at most of these sites, nothing is visible on the surface; the timbers and household waste lie preserved underwater and in the peat, waiting for future archaeologists.

    Read the complete Schreckensee write-up.

    Recorded stop-planning note

    May refer to an earlier itinerary; verify against your selected route before riding.

    Planning note

    about 172 km into the recorded legs you reach Schreckensee. Next is back through Egelsee.

  4. 4. back through Egelsee

    Return visit. Read the place description above.

    Read the complete Egelsee write-up.

    Recorded stop-planning note

    May refer to an earlier itinerary; verify against your selected route before riding.

    Planning note

    back through Egelsee, late in the day. Next is Sumpf.

  5. 5. Sumpf

    Return visit. Read the place description above.

    Read the complete Sumpf write-up.

    Recorded stop-planning note

    May refer to an earlier itinerary; verify against your selected route before riding.

    Planning note

    Back at Sumpf. That is the ride.

Leg by leg

Sumpf to Egelsee

Sumpf → Egelsee is 72 km of getting across. Ride it tidily and keep the enthusiasm for what comes after.

Egelsee to Schreckensee

Egelsee → Schreckensee is 100 km of getting across. Ride it tidily and keep the enthusiasm for what comes after.

Schreckensee to back through Egelsee

Schreckensee → back through Egelsee is 90 km of getting across. Ride it tidily and keep the enthusiasm for what comes after.

back through Egelsee to Sumpf

back through Egelsee → Sumpf is 70 km of getting across. Ride it tidily and keep the enthusiasm for what comes after.

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